Wednesday, July 28, 2010

Once saved....... always saved??

Ok here we go.................

If you are born again and still living in sin (continuing to practice sin despite knowing its wrong) -----I would seriously question the relationship of that person to God. You MUST understand that Satan tricks (1 Cor 11:14) people into thinking they are "saved" when they indeed aren't.

You cannot successfully live in the light and in the darkness at the SAME time (2 Cor 6:14-18). People who think they are saved and born again and going to heaven yet continue to live in sin are deceiving themselves---PERIOD. You must repent (acts 3:19) which is a TURNING AWAY from sin and a TRANSFORMATION (Romans 12:2) starts the process of sanctification.

Not saying we will not all fall short of God's righteousness, because we will...But to continue in practicing sin is---in effect---(Hebrews 6:6). You cannot be transformed and stay the same---it is not possible. If it were possible for me to go to heaven and still continue in occasional drug use and fornication then I would still be practicing sin. But, because of the Spirit of God that has been in me, since my conversion---I have been being sanctified ever since and therefore do NOT do the things I once did (2 COR 5:17---If anyone is in Christ, He is a NEW creation--the old has GONE).

Are these people going to Hell?

Well according to the Bible, they may very well be!----No adulterer, liar, fornicators, etc (1 Corinthians 6:9) will enter the kingdom of heaven--PERIOD! All our answers can be found in the living Word of God and anybody who thinks otherwise or strays from the truth are being deceived somehow and we must pray consistently for them!!

Faith without works is DEAD faith, if we say we have faith but how we live our lives contradict that, it is not even faith at all!!

Its all written already..............................
Faith and Deeds
14What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save him? 15Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. 16If one of you says to him, "Go, I wish you well; keep warm and well fed," but does nothing about his physical needs, what good is it? 17In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead. 18But someone will say, "You have faith; I have deeds."

Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do.
19You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.
20You foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless? 21Was not our ancestor Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness," and he was called God's friend. 24You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone.

25In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction? 26As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.

2 Timothy 3

Godlessness in the Last Days
1But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5having a form of godliness but denying its power...(people that say they are Christian but by their lives deny the power of God) Have nothing to do with them.

6They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over weak-willed women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, 7always learning but never able to acknowledge the truth. 8Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these men oppose the truth—men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected.

9But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.

Love you guys!! keep bringing on the questions and may God use us more and more in these last days and open the eyes of our understanding through His word!!!

Michael Panebianco


  1. WOW - you certainly are full of yourself!

  2. The first mention of not inheriting the kingdom of God is found in Paul’s first letter to the church at Corinth. “Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God" (1 Corinthians 6:9-11).

    By saying the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God, Paul is stating that the wicked are not children of God, nor are they heirs of eternal life (Romans 8:17). This does not mean that anybody who has ever committed one of these sins will be denied entrance to heaven. What differentiates a Christian’s life from that of a non-Christian is the struggle against sin and the ability to overcome it. A true Christian will always repent, will always eventually return to God, and will always resume the struggle against sin. But the Bible gives no support for the idea that a person who perpetually and unrepentantly engages in sin can indeed be a Christian. The 1 Corinthians passage lists sins that, if indulged in continuously, identify a person as not being redeemed by Christ.

    The Christian’s response to sin is to hate it, repent of it, and forsake it. We still struggle with sin, but by the power of the Holy Spirit who lives in us, we are able to resist and overcome sin. The hallmark of a true Christian is the decreasing presence of sin in his life. As Christians grow and mature in the faith, sin has less and less of a hold on us. Of course, sinless perfection is impossible in this life, but our hatred for sin becomes greater as we mature. Like Paul, we are distressed that sin still exists in our flesh, causing us at times to do what we don’t want to do and looking to Christ for relief from this “body of death” (Romans 7:18-25).

    If a person actively, perpetually, and unrepentantly lives a homosexual lifestyle, the lifestyle of a thief, a greedy lifestyle, a drunken lifestyle, etc., it is not possible for such a person to be a Christian, and such a person will definitely not inherit the kingdom of God.

  3. what happened to finding a way to include people and minister to them. If YOU set your mind on seeing folks as bad then they will affirm that for you. You need to fall on your knees and ask the Lord for the grace He gave you. You (as we all)are still imperfect and will be until you live with him. Act to take others with you, not exclude them because of your pompous prde in yourself - scubadave